Thanks for this post, Rob. Hopefully Dave Upthegrove can prevail in the election in spite of the Times' endorsement of his opponent. Two recent articles in the Seattle Times by the same reporter that pitted the environment against the loggers seemed to me to miss a critical opportunity to convey to readers the urgency to the continuation of life on this planet of protecting our forests. Loggers and others could become inspiring leaders in a change in consciousness, and work instead to restore damaged forests and other ecosystems.
In some way, I find that it is not the clear cut that is the worst, but the planting following it. Of course, I speak about forests that have already been managed and not old growth. If you clear cut without planting, the result can be quite appealing and diverse, at least in my part of the world, Sweden. Planting is the step that really convert the land to agriculture style plantations.
Absolutely. Forests have evolved to deal with disturbance, but not to being force-marched into plantation production. Sometime I think the forests are burning because they need to, that they're trying to throw off the prison walls of "management."
Hello Rob, it was suggested to me that You are someone that doesn't let conformity drag you down Particularly scientists that forgot about natural phenomena because they might have found it easier to make a living by ignoring nature and making climate change a deep complexity so as they do not ruffle corporate feathers that feed them. Now this aside.
I'm part of a renegade citizen research and education group with our membership age ranging from mid 60s to 80s. Our area of research has taken us to the Arctic and subarctic following the demise and destruction of many, many of the largest rivers up there when Russia and Canada starting in the 1950s decided to build mega hydroelectric reservoirs dams 400-800' tall with 1000s of Sq. miles of sea-sized impounded waters often flooding over permafrost. This permanently changed the landscape and imprisoned major waterways for 5-6 months during summer from Siberia to Labrador.
We have followed up on the work of the late Hans Neu. Neu was head of Oceanograpy at the Bedford institute from 1960s to 1980's. He was contracted by Hydro Quebec to study the impacts of dams on the overall health of the environment. So for several years he collected data: Water temperature , discharge rates, and salanity readings, and changes where the estuaries mixed with
the fresh water dam discharges, the ocean, and seas in the area. Much of his work was done along the continental shelf of the northeast coast. After several years of collecting and tabulating he presented findings to HQ and they frankly were startled and decided to immediately end their contract with Neu and the Bedford Institute. They threatened him and his livlihood and forced him to not publish these findings in any credible scientific journals or abstracts. New went on t write articles about his discoveries in a few obscure environmental magazine.
We picked up with our work where Neu has left off and I'd like to send you many details of of the past decade or two of our work. Some of it is found in this book arcticbluedeserts.com but it is time for another book as we have amassed lots of fresh information. The cumulative effect of operating these dams under strict human flow regulations for these past almost 70 years is leading to severe global climatological Impacts. Would like to send details of our work in PDF and would be happy to mail you our book
Thanks for this post, Rob. Hopefully Dave Upthegrove can prevail in the election in spite of the Times' endorsement of his opponent. Two recent articles in the Seattle Times by the same reporter that pitted the environment against the loggers seemed to me to miss a critical opportunity to convey to readers the urgency to the continuation of life on this planet of protecting our forests. Loggers and others could become inspiring leaders in a change in consciousness, and work instead to restore damaged forests and other ecosystems.
Thanks, Deanna.
Yes. The reporting was disappointing, but I suspect it had something to do with editorial oversight. (or undersight?)
Thanks for the thoughtful analysis and nuanced definition of terms related to forests and forests management.
Another great post
In some way, I find that it is not the clear cut that is the worst, but the planting following it. Of course, I speak about forests that have already been managed and not old growth. If you clear cut without planting, the result can be quite appealing and diverse, at least in my part of the world, Sweden. Planting is the step that really convert the land to agriculture style plantations.
Absolutely. Forests have evolved to deal with disturbance, but not to being force-marched into plantation production. Sometime I think the forests are burning because they need to, that they're trying to throw off the prison walls of "management."
Hello Rob, it was suggested to me that You are someone that doesn't let conformity drag you down Particularly scientists that forgot about natural phenomena because they might have found it easier to make a living by ignoring nature and making climate change a deep complexity so as they do not ruffle corporate feathers that feed them. Now this aside.
I'm part of a renegade citizen research and education group with our membership age ranging from mid 60s to 80s. Our area of research has taken us to the Arctic and subarctic following the demise and destruction of many, many of the largest rivers up there when Russia and Canada starting in the 1950s decided to build mega hydroelectric reservoirs dams 400-800' tall with 1000s of Sq. miles of sea-sized impounded waters often flooding over permafrost. This permanently changed the landscape and imprisoned major waterways for 5-6 months during summer from Siberia to Labrador.
We have followed up on the work of the late Hans Neu. Neu was head of Oceanograpy at the Bedford institute from 1960s to 1980's. He was contracted by Hydro Quebec to study the impacts of dams on the overall health of the environment. So for several years he collected data: Water temperature , discharge rates, and salanity readings, and changes where the estuaries mixed with
the fresh water dam discharges, the ocean, and seas in the area. Much of his work was done along the continental shelf of the northeast coast. After several years of collecting and tabulating he presented findings to HQ and they frankly were startled and decided to immediately end their contract with Neu and the Bedford Institute. They threatened him and his livlihood and forced him to not publish these findings in any credible scientific journals or abstracts. New went on t write articles about his discoveries in a few obscure environmental magazine.
We picked up with our work where Neu has left off and I'd like to send you many details of of the past decade or two of our work. Some of it is found in this book arcticbluedeserts.com but it is time for another book as we have amassed lots of fresh information. The cumulative effect of operating these dams under strict human flow regulations for these past almost 70 years is leading to severe global climatological Impacts. Would like to send details of our work in PDF and would be happy to mail you our book