We can hope that trying to advance a new narrative will gain a foot hold, even as Vaclav Havel said, "Hope is not the conviction that something will turn out well but the certainty that something makes sense, regardless of how it turns out." Thanks Rob
The conference, going on now. In time the countries will understand but for now it is the participants, young activists who have traveled, some native, the connections, networking and memories for their lifetimes is sadly the best that can be said about this COP.
Sadly the reality that western humans are trapped in the simplistic CO2 narrative is not surprising, we are living in a system that is operating with the wrong goal incentivizing the wrong actions. The acknowledgement that land use is a contributing factor to how climate changes would put at risk the chance to make profit by 'developing land' - cutting down life and planting concrete... Until we can shift the goal (and hearts) of the whole system there will always be someone out there who is prepared to destroy life to make profit, hence 50+ years of activism has made so few long term inroads...
All we can do is just keep planting green things ourselves and inspiring others to value life above all things... I am heartened to run into more and more people who are indeed getting out and doing life supporting things, many who only a few years ago would not have considered such actions.
my mantra :
"Every act of service to life aligns with a world that is more alive.
No effort is wasted, even if we cannot see how it is going to make a difference."
The point you made about temperatures on the moon is strong. I had not thought of it before, but am borrowing the idea. What is surprisingly hard is finding typical high and low temperatures in the Amazon rainforest. I can find good data about the moon and the Sahara from NASA earth observatory. But the best info I can find about the Amazon rainforest is from tourist organizations. NASA has info about average temperatures in the Amazon. But that says nothing about variability, i.e., highs and lows. Wish me luck. :-)
Although stuck the current powers/ systems keep parsing out biodiversity as if it had little to nothing in common with climate change. I can only point to recent findings a new study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences led by researchers at the University of Colorado Boulder indicates that the sharp rise in atmospheric methane to record levels in the last few years was driven primarily by increased emissions from microbial sources such as wetlands, organic waste, and agriculture.
The National Academy of science is not connecting microbial Methane surge in the atmosphere with the delivery system-- Evaporation and water vapor. Microbial methane is injected or transmitted via evaporation and water vapor.
Now this is making perfect sense, unfortunately there are siloed crowds of scientists that do not not know or want to know what the other hand is doing or do they have any interest in seeing the broader picture.
As I said what has been going on with hydro generation in the Arctic region. Huge amounts of evaporation and water vapor emissions for decades is transporting Microbial Methane into the upper latitude atmosphere and warming the Arctic and melting the glaciers. In addition to the warming of sub arctic and Arctic, increasing amounts of snow and rainfall have transformed this desert-like region into wetter and warmer with increasing amounts of fresh water now entering the Arctic Ocean particularly in winter. This is directly affecting sea level rise ,salinity, and the Meridional ocean currents as well.
Rob this hydro mega dam and reservoir issue is the perfect example of how science has ignored the radical changes to the hydrology and the many destroyed rivers located throughout the Arctic regions. I think that we need to concentrate on the incredible loss of biodiversity due to these dams in the upper latitudes of Northern Hemisphere. The largest amount of freshwater in the N. Hemisphere was flowing rivers 24x7 but beginning in the 1950s this changed and by the early 1970s many rivers there were pushed inland forming great sea-size impoundments. it was first noted that Polar Amplification and feedbacks were beginning to be observed in the 70s . Scientists. Because of the silo effect scientists never connected the dots to the dams and still many today say it is climate change, never pointing a finger at the dams
This is very intersting work you are doing. I'm hoping to better educate myself in the not too distant future. Something I had never thought about. Yes, the silo's aren't helping.
As usual Rob, this is excellent. But the conversation is shifting gradually in the right direction. I find that people are afraid to publicly question the carbon-dioxide narrative, but in private they totally get it. Anyway, keep it up. John
Hello Rob, I was hoping that I could get your attention about this issue. Alpha Lo suggested that I reach out to you and your substack. I forwarded alph info and his plan, when he has time will dig in.
Rob if you would like I'd be happy to offer you more information that our Arctic research and educational non profit small research group. Whenever you see time time available to look deeper into this subject I will send you detailed data we've collected and studies that we have assembled. The delicate balance preserving Arctic sea ice is continually under attack, particularly dams up there are front and center in this issue. And there are a lot more pieces to this problem. I can send our current Primer studies and when you get a chance you can start looking at them. If you want me to send some info now is there an email that I can send PDFs of our most recent research directly to you?
Great article. Thanks for reporting on this!
We can hope that trying to advance a new narrative will gain a foot hold, even as Vaclav Havel said, "Hope is not the conviction that something will turn out well but the certainty that something makes sense, regardless of how it turns out." Thanks Rob
Thank you Rob, I save all your posts in a file. I appreciate your thinking out of the box and making a difference.
The conference, going on now. In time the countries will understand but for now it is the participants, young activists who have traveled, some native, the connections, networking and memories for their lifetimes is sadly the best that can be said about this COP.
Sadly the reality that western humans are trapped in the simplistic CO2 narrative is not surprising, we are living in a system that is operating with the wrong goal incentivizing the wrong actions. The acknowledgement that land use is a contributing factor to how climate changes would put at risk the chance to make profit by 'developing land' - cutting down life and planting concrete... Until we can shift the goal (and hearts) of the whole system there will always be someone out there who is prepared to destroy life to make profit, hence 50+ years of activism has made so few long term inroads...
All we can do is just keep planting green things ourselves and inspiring others to value life above all things... I am heartened to run into more and more people who are indeed getting out and doing life supporting things, many who only a few years ago would not have considered such actions.
my mantra :
"Every act of service to life aligns with a world that is more alive.
No effort is wasted, even if we cannot see how it is going to make a difference."
Charles Eisenstein
The point you made about temperatures on the moon is strong. I had not thought of it before, but am borrowing the idea. What is surprisingly hard is finding typical high and low temperatures in the Amazon rainforest. I can find good data about the moon and the Sahara from NASA earth observatory. But the best info I can find about the Amazon rainforest is from tourist organizations. NASA has info about average temperatures in the Amazon. But that says nothing about variability, i.e., highs and lows. Wish me luck. :-)
Rob excellent observations
Although stuck the current powers/ systems keep parsing out biodiversity as if it had little to nothing in common with climate change. I can only point to recent findings a new study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences led by researchers at the University of Colorado Boulder indicates that the sharp rise in atmospheric methane to record levels in the last few years was driven primarily by increased emissions from microbial sources such as wetlands, organic waste, and agriculture.
The National Academy of science is not connecting microbial Methane surge in the atmosphere with the delivery system-- Evaporation and water vapor. Microbial methane is injected or transmitted via evaporation and water vapor.
Now this is making perfect sense, unfortunately there are siloed crowds of scientists that do not not know or want to know what the other hand is doing or do they have any interest in seeing the broader picture.
As I said what has been going on with hydro generation in the Arctic region. Huge amounts of evaporation and water vapor emissions for decades is transporting Microbial Methane into the upper latitude atmosphere and warming the Arctic and melting the glaciers. In addition to the warming of sub arctic and Arctic, increasing amounts of snow and rainfall have transformed this desert-like region into wetter and warmer with increasing amounts of fresh water now entering the Arctic Ocean particularly in winter. This is directly affecting sea level rise ,salinity, and the Meridional ocean currents as well.
Rob this hydro mega dam and reservoir issue is the perfect example of how science has ignored the radical changes to the hydrology and the many destroyed rivers located throughout the Arctic regions. I think that we need to concentrate on the incredible loss of biodiversity due to these dams in the upper latitudes of Northern Hemisphere. The largest amount of freshwater in the N. Hemisphere was flowing rivers 24x7 but beginning in the 1950s this changed and by the early 1970s many rivers there were pushed inland forming great sea-size impoundments. it was first noted that Polar Amplification and feedbacks were beginning to be observed in the 70s . Scientists. Because of the silo effect scientists never connected the dots to the dams and still many today say it is climate change, never pointing a finger at the dams
This is very intersting work you are doing. I'm hoping to better educate myself in the not too distant future. Something I had never thought about. Yes, the silo's aren't helping.
As usual Rob, this is excellent. But the conversation is shifting gradually in the right direction. I find that people are afraid to publicly question the carbon-dioxide narrative, but in private they totally get it. Anyway, keep it up. John
Yeah, there seems to be two understandings, the official and unofficial.
Hello Rob, I was hoping that I could get your attention about this issue. Alpha Lo suggested that I reach out to you and your substack. I forwarded alph info and his plan, when he has time will dig in.
Rob if you would like I'd be happy to offer you more information that our Arctic research and educational non profit small research group. Whenever you see time time available to look deeper into this subject I will send you detailed data we've collected and studies that we have assembled. The delicate balance preserving Arctic sea ice is continually under attack, particularly dams up there are front and center in this issue. And there are a lot more pieces to this problem. I can send our current Primer studies and when you get a chance you can start looking at them. If you want me to send some info now is there an email that I can send PDFs of our most recent research directly to you?
Yes, please do. I was unaware of dam activity in the Arctic and I'm guessing most other people are too. earthcraftpainting@gmail.com