This is so helpful for illustrating why the earth and all creatures who live thereon need healthy forests, healthy grasslands, wetlands and less heat reflecting cement, roads, bare fields, clearcuts, etc. We can challenge the use of the fear of forest fires as a justification to log, log, log with these descriptions of how the life in a healthy ecosystem can be better for the whole earth. including human health and safety. Thanks for persevering and inspiring us, Rob.
What can I say Rob good work for sure! I know that Ali Bin also follows you and Alphas work. He's been writing some powerful stuff lately too. If you haven't yet check out his last two articles they're worth a read. I spoke with him by Whats App, last night late he resides in
Islamabad, Pakistan. He's in his 40's 5 chidren and he shares a house with his dad, who's 75 my age.
He's starting to do some podcast work on his substack site. It would be nice gathering this group together to do some podcast work together. We may be even stronger if we can somehow for short periods link our organizations together. We're all soeaking a similar language about our planets dynamic life force. A force similar to all other animals here ourselves included, All share this beautiful life supporting system. Which now needs more folks to embrace, speak up, and stand up for this supersized being and help prevent its destruction
Not one mention of bioprecipitation and the role vegetation plays in cloud formation and moderating climatic extremes. I know the mid west is not known for its forests but the degree of reforestation of riparian systems and vegetation cover could play to spread out these dramatic events did not even get a mention. Again many thanks for your work.
Thanks, Theodore. It strikes me as a classically physical perception of the climate, where the land is a passive recipient and not the main actor, which it is in many ways is, at least concerning local phenomenon, such as tornadoes. How much has the removal of forests and the resurfacing of the land in slick, homogenous monocrops effected the wind currents? What about the changed evapotranspiration, the radically changed surface temps? How do such landscapes regulate their climates anymore? So much of the natural, climate-regulating infrastructure has been removed.
It would be interesting to know somehow the prevalence of tornadoes prior to felling the forest mosaic.
Very True, I have been throwing around two Ideas lately which you may wish to think about
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without a price on nature demand will always drive deforestation and as countries become more wealthy so demand will increase. We all understand nature provides a service and could come to an agreement to a price, what we need is a nature currency like any country has and is provided to the countries that these natural services come from. Any country that then refuses to trade in it has the option but those that do can use it as part of their inter country capital exchange. If countries wish to generate more nature capital they could be given an advance on the future service and some of the poorest countries in the world will now have a reason and the funds to secure this service of nature for the future. If a country reduces this service then they lose an income stream. Sounds simple and easier in many ways than bitcoin and monitoring could be paid for in the same currency so as not to reduce the capital of any one country.
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The use hot exhaust streams from international shipping to vaporize sea water for cloud formation over the ocean, Cloud droplets formed on these salt particles can grow larger than droplets formed on other smaller particles. Therefore, sea salt particles can be important for cloud and rain formation over oceans. If we wanted we could even enrich sea water with extra salt loaded while docked. Sulpher created the contrails which we have the ability to map so we already have an understanding of the albedo effect and to a degree feed back loops from such actions. As you probably know we have already done some trials over the great barrier reef as to sea salt cloud brightening, but the effects were localized and expensive, this could be a much cheaper option.
Very thought provoking information, thank you
Thanks, Diane.
This is so helpful for illustrating why the earth and all creatures who live thereon need healthy forests, healthy grasslands, wetlands and less heat reflecting cement, roads, bare fields, clearcuts, etc. We can challenge the use of the fear of forest fires as a justification to log, log, log with these descriptions of how the life in a healthy ecosystem can be better for the whole earth. including human health and safety. Thanks for persevering and inspiring us, Rob.
Appreciate hearing that, Deanna.
What can I say Rob good work for sure! I know that Ali Bin also follows you and Alphas work. He's been writing some powerful stuff lately too. If you haven't yet check out his last two articles they're worth a read. I spoke with him by Whats App, last night late he resides in
Islamabad, Pakistan. He's in his 40's 5 chidren and he shares a house with his dad, who's 75 my age.
He's starting to do some podcast work on his substack site. It would be nice gathering this group together to do some podcast work together. We may be even stronger if we can somehow for short periods link our organizations together. We're all soeaking a similar language about our planets dynamic life force. A force similar to all other animals here ourselves included, All share this beautiful life supporting system. Which now needs more folks to embrace, speak up, and stand up for this supersized being and help prevent its destruction
Good ideas, Cliff. I'm game. And yes, Ali and Alpha are doing incredible work. Just trying to keep up!
Hi Rob, there is an interesting article in the conversation
https://theconversation.com/why-some-storms-brew-up-to-extreme-dimensions-in-the-middle-of-america-and-why-its-happening-more-often-254123
Not one mention of bioprecipitation and the role vegetation plays in cloud formation and moderating climatic extremes. I know the mid west is not known for its forests but the degree of reforestation of riparian systems and vegetation cover could play to spread out these dramatic events did not even get a mention. Again many thanks for your work.
Thanks, Theodore. It strikes me as a classically physical perception of the climate, where the land is a passive recipient and not the main actor, which it is in many ways is, at least concerning local phenomenon, such as tornadoes. How much has the removal of forests and the resurfacing of the land in slick, homogenous monocrops effected the wind currents? What about the changed evapotranspiration, the radically changed surface temps? How do such landscapes regulate their climates anymore? So much of the natural, climate-regulating infrastructure has been removed.
It would be interesting to know somehow the prevalence of tornadoes prior to felling the forest mosaic.
Very True, I have been throwing around two Ideas lately which you may wish to think about
1
without a price on nature demand will always drive deforestation and as countries become more wealthy so demand will increase. We all understand nature provides a service and could come to an agreement to a price, what we need is a nature currency like any country has and is provided to the countries that these natural services come from. Any country that then refuses to trade in it has the option but those that do can use it as part of their inter country capital exchange. If countries wish to generate more nature capital they could be given an advance on the future service and some of the poorest countries in the world will now have a reason and the funds to secure this service of nature for the future. If a country reduces this service then they lose an income stream. Sounds simple and easier in many ways than bitcoin and monitoring could be paid for in the same currency so as not to reduce the capital of any one country.
2
The use hot exhaust streams from international shipping to vaporize sea water for cloud formation over the ocean, Cloud droplets formed on these salt particles can grow larger than droplets formed on other smaller particles. Therefore, sea salt particles can be important for cloud and rain formation over oceans. If we wanted we could even enrich sea water with extra salt loaded while docked. Sulpher created the contrails which we have the ability to map so we already have an understanding of the albedo effect and to a degree feed back loops from such actions. As you probably know we have already done some trials over the great barrier reef as to sea salt cloud brightening, but the effects were localized and expensive, this could be a much cheaper option.
Awesome work Rob, never underestimate how much your words can push others into action.
Thanks, Leon. I'll try not too.